Fred E Hathaway

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  I'm a Liar

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, i'm downtown quite early the other morning while still dark and i see a man holding an awake.

  so, i pull over and wave him over.

  after a few words of cordiality, i ask him why jehovah's witnesses teach that jesus returned invisibly in 1914 when jesus himself said this:in matthew 24:.

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  Fred E Hathaway

  Now, back to the regular broadcast of "I'm a Liar". Thank you for your patience.
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  Ask Fred E Hathaway, a.k.a. Q. Bert

  by Fred E Hathaway in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for those who feel that i've hijacked your thread(s), i'm still relatively new here, so your forgiveness (based on this acknowledgement and apology) is appreciated.

  i'm posting this link, http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/131766/2343640/post.ashx#2343640, on the other threads as soon as i can.

  bear with me as i attend to the necessary housework involved.. fred/q..

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  Fred E Hathaway

  For those who feel that I've hijacked your thread(s), I'm still relatively new here, so your forgiveness (based on this acknowledgement and apology) is appreciated. I'm posting this link, http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/131766/2343640/post.ashx#2343640, on the other threads as soon as I can. Bear with me as I attend to the necessary housework involved.

  — Fred/Q.
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  107

  I'm a Liar

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, i'm downtown quite early the other morning while still dark and i see a man holding an awake.

  so, i pull over and wave him over.

  after a few words of cordiality, i ask him why jehovah's witnesses teach that jesus returned invisibly in 1914 when jesus himself said this:in matthew 24:.

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  Fred E Hathaway

  Many words, Perry. Few is better for me.

  I'm still new on JWD, so I wish you would have told me earlier. Hijacking isn't good manners.

  I've just started the "Ask Fred E Hathaway a.k.a. Q.Bert" thread at http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/131766/2343640/post.ashx#2343640.
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  107

  I'm a Liar

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, i'm downtown quite early the other morning while still dark and i see a man holding an awake.

  so, i pull over and wave him over.

  after a few words of cordiality, i ask him why jehovah's witnesses teach that jesus returned invisibly in 1914 when jesus himself said this:in matthew 24:.

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  Fred E Hathaway

  Faith, Hope, Love ... in thought and in deed, indeed. It works for me.
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  107

  I'm a Liar

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, i'm downtown quite early the other morning while still dark and i see a man holding an awake.

  so, i pull over and wave him over.

  after a few words of cordiality, i ask him why jehovah's witnesses teach that jesus returned invisibly in 1914 when jesus himself said this:in matthew 24:.

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  Fred E Hathaway

  to found-my-way:

  I go out for attendance at the 5 meetings per week, for shopping, and for playing pocket billiards once or twice per week. It works for me.

  The "serious lockdown" is my own choice, as was divulging the info that resulted in the elders' rulings over the years. I speak by e-mail and JWD to many, but associate (have common ground) with far fewer. I associate with what I hear at the meetings and in JW's publications. There were actually 4 elders (of the current 6 in the Congregation which I'm assigned to) that were part of the JC. In the 15 months, I could probably count on one hand the number of times that I've approached one of the 4 in relation to my case, 3 of which were in a brief statement in handing an Application for Reinstatement to the then-current Presiding Overseer.

  I don't consider my current experience to be punishment. Rather, I view is as needed training and re-adjustment, in preparation for a life of full-time ministry. I have had peace of mind from the time I went into this latest JC, 15 months ago. There have been slips along the way, which have resulted in grief, but my resolve is firmer than it's ever been. Now that I'm exposing myself, the progress is clearer. If I don't look after myself spiritually by holding myself to account, no-one else can do it for me.
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  107

  I'm a Liar

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, i'm downtown quite early the other morning while still dark and i see a man holding an awake.

  so, i pull over and wave him over.

  after a few words of cordiality, i ask him why jehovah's witnesses teach that jesus returned invisibly in 1914 when jesus himself said this:in matthew 24:.

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  Fred E Hathaway

  My behavior is contained. Which is all I wanted. Not irritation, which is what I got instead. They had no words of spiritual comfort. So I'm better off the way I am right now. I'm healing, in spite of the "professional counselors", just as I've already reached an age that the surgeons said would be impossible 20 short years ago, when they operated on my head injury, which resulted from a motor vehicle collision.
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  How did I conclude it was not the 'truth'?

  by jgnat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a new board member asked me this.

  i asked if it would be all right to publish my reply.

  the question, in full, is, .

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  Fred E Hathaway

  The changes that the Apostle Paul made are still being made today. The choices are clearer as more evidence is understood.
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  "Trinitarians" how can you "lie" to the truth? Is truth a person?

  by booker-t in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was talking to this jw's elder who i believe has to be the best debater against the "trinity" doctrine that jw's have he brought up several point which i feel needs to be addressed by trinitarians.

  first of all he argured that acts 5:3-4 about lying to the holy spirit in no way makes the holy spirit a person any more that "lying to the truth" in james makes "truth" a person.

  i have never seen that verse before about lying to the truth.

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  Fred E Hathaway

  What you left is not as developed as it is now, nor will be as each issue comes out. The speculation that existed 5 or 10 or 20 years ago doesn't show up in the Congregation I'm assigned to now. But, then, just as each of the 7 congregations in Asia Minor received different counsel [in Rev.2 & Rev.3], so each congregation in the Apostle Paul's day had different issues, as does each congregation today. But, there is growth into Christ's fullness over time, where the holy spirit is at work. Where it isn't there's lopping off, as there should be.
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  107

  I'm a Liar

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, i'm downtown quite early the other morning while still dark and i see a man holding an awake.

  so, i pull over and wave him over.

  after a few words of cordiality, i ask him why jehovah's witnesses teach that jesus returned invisibly in 1914 when jesus himself said this:in matthew 24:.

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  Fred E Hathaway

  Been there, tried that, not interested. I'll stick to what I know works.
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  How did I conclude it was not the 'truth'?

  by jgnat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a new board member asked me this.

  i asked if it would be all right to publish my reply.

  the question, in full, is, .

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  Fred E Hathaway

  False is based on intent to deceive. I'm not qualified to judge this matter.